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David Icke on Barat and Barati
(trop ancien pour répondre)
Quintal
2004-09-07 21:28:08 UTC
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francom.esoterisme,fr.soc.histoire.antique

http://www.higgs1.demon.co.uk/barritt/icke.htm

The following is taken from 'The Biggest Secret' by David Icke (1999).

Barat and Barati

...The 'royal' élite clan of the Aryans were (are) called the Barats
and this is why you find the term Barat or Brihat in the ancient
Indian culture as you do with Britain and British (Barat-ain and
Barat-ish). The Indian Vedas say that "King Barat gave his name to the
Dynastic Race of which he was the founder; and so it is from him that
the fame of that Dynastic people hath spread so wide." Parat, Prat and
Prydi, are some of the other derivatives of Barat. The original form
was Barat-ana or Brithad-ana." The suffix ana in Hittite-Sumerian
(Aryan) means 'one'. Ana in fact evolved into the English word 'one'
and the Scottish 'ane'. Barat-ana or Briton therefore means 'One of
the Barats' (Bruits). It is the same with many other countries
occupied by this race. The name Iran comes from the earlier Airy-Ana
or Air-an, which means Land of the Arrays or Aryans."

The Indian Vedas also acknowledge the goddess Barati (Belonging to the
Barats), and she was known as Brihad the Divine. They say her special
place was on the Saras-vati River which happens to be the modem Sarus
River in the Hittite-Phoenidan land of Cilicia. The river entered the
sea at Tarsus, the alleged home of St Paul in the New Testament, a
work written in accordance with Aryan sun myths. Also, these
Phoenicians and Aryans worshipped the serpent and the shape-shifting
reptilians called the Nagas were the serpent gods of the Hindus. The
Vedas, inspired by the Aryans, tell how the serpent-humans, the Nagas,
could cause fantastic damage and instant death. The Nagas were also
said to have appeared at the birth of the man who became known as
Buddha and the serpent plays a part in the legend of Khrishna. The
Roman name for Barati was Fortune after her legend as the goddess or
fortune. They depicted Fortune in the same way as the Phoenicians
symbolised Barati and the British do with Britannia. All were
associated with water as you expect with a sea-faring race like the
Phoenicians. The Egyptians, too, had a goddess called Birth, the
goddess of the waters, and she was another mirror of Barati because
the Aryan-Phoenicians were the force behind Egypt. Birth was described
by a Babylonian emperor about 680 BC as "a Phoenician god across the
sea". In Crete, another Phoenician centre under the title 'Minoan',
their goddess was Brito-Martis. She was a Phoenician goddess according
to Greek and Roman legend (Barati in other words) and the divine
daughter of Phoenix, the king of Phoenicia. Brito-Martis became
identified with the goddess Diana, a major deity of the ancient world,
and like her she was armed for the hunt. As Earl Spencer made a point
of emphasising at the funeral of his sister Diana, Princess of Wales,
she was named after the ancient goddess of hunting.

(voir figure sur la page web, deux images, une de barati et une de
britannia)

...L. A. Waddell translated the markings on another stone in Scotland,
the Newton Stone in the Dumfries and Galloway region, to be
Phoenician-Hittite and dedicated to their Sun god, Bel or Bil. The
classic British symbol of Britannia comes from the Phoenician goddess,
Barati. Look at how the Phoenicians depicted Barati and how the
British depict Britannia in the illustration. One of the major centres
of the Aryan-Hittite-Phoenicians was Cilicia in Asia Minor and here
Barati was worshipped as Perathea and later Diana. So Diana and
Britannia originate from the same source. Barati was the queen/goddess
figure of the Phoenicians as Barat was the god/king. These are
possibly names for the Babylonian deities Nimrod and Semiramis.
Quintal
2004-09-07 21:30:55 UTC
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un exposé général de la théorie reptilienno-conspirationniste de Icke
pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas:

http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2/biggestsecret.html



On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 21:28:08 GMT, Quintal
Post by Quintal
francom.esoterisme,fr.soc.histoire.antique
http://www.higgs1.demon.co.uk/barritt/icke.htm
The following is taken from 'The Biggest Secret' by David Icke (1999).
Barat and Barati
...The 'royal' élite clan of the Aryans were (are) called the Barats
and this is why you find the term Barat or Brihat in the ancient
Indian culture as you do with Britain and British (Barat-ain and
Barat-ish). The Indian Vedas say that "King Barat gave his name to the
Dynastic Race of which he was the founder; and so it is from him that
the fame of that Dynastic people hath spread so wide." Parat, Prat and
Prydi, are some of the other derivatives of Barat. The original form
was Barat-ana or Brithad-ana." The suffix ana in Hittite-Sumerian
(Aryan) means 'one'. Ana in fact evolved into the English word 'one'
and the Scottish 'ane'. Barat-ana or Briton therefore means 'One of
the Barats' (Bruits). It is the same with many other countries
occupied by this race. The name Iran comes from the earlier Airy-Ana
or Air-an, which means Land of the Arrays or Aryans."
The Indian Vedas also acknowledge the goddess Barati (Belonging to the
Barats), and she was known as Brihad the Divine. They say her special
place was on the Saras-vati River which happens to be the modem Sarus
River in the Hittite-Phoenidan land of Cilicia. The river entered the
sea at Tarsus, the alleged home of St Paul in the New Testament, a
work written in accordance with Aryan sun myths. Also, these
Phoenicians and Aryans worshipped the serpent and the shape-shifting
reptilians called the Nagas were the serpent gods of the Hindus. The
Vedas, inspired by the Aryans, tell how the serpent-humans, the Nagas,
could cause fantastic damage and instant death. The Nagas were also
said to have appeared at the birth of the man who became known as
Buddha and the serpent plays a part in the legend of Khrishna. The
Roman name for Barati was Fortune after her legend as the goddess or
fortune. They depicted Fortune in the same way as the Phoenicians
symbolised Barati and the British do with Britannia. All were
associated with water as you expect with a sea-faring race like the
Phoenicians. The Egyptians, too, had a goddess called Birth, the
goddess of the waters, and she was another mirror of Barati because
the Aryan-Phoenicians were the force behind Egypt. Birth was described
by a Babylonian emperor about 680 BC as "a Phoenician god across the
sea". In Crete, another Phoenician centre under the title 'Minoan',
their goddess was Brito-Martis. She was a Phoenician goddess according
to Greek and Roman legend (Barati in other words) and the divine
daughter of Phoenix, the king of Phoenicia. Brito-Martis became
identified with the goddess Diana, a major deity of the ancient world,
and like her she was armed for the hunt. As Earl Spencer made a point
of emphasising at the funeral of his sister Diana, Princess of Wales,
she was named after the ancient goddess of hunting.
(voir figure sur la page web, deux images, une de barati et une de
britannia)
...L. A. Waddell translated the markings on another stone in Scotland,
the Newton Stone in the Dumfries and Galloway region, to be
Phoenician-Hittite and dedicated to their Sun god, Bel or Bil. The
classic British symbol of Britannia comes from the Phoenician goddess,
Barati. Look at how the Phoenicians depicted Barati and how the
British depict Britannia in the illustration. One of the major centres
of the Aryan-Hittite-Phoenicians was Cilicia in Asia Minor and here
Barati was worshipped as Perathea and later Diana. So Diana and
Britannia originate from the same source. Barati was the queen/goddess
figure of the Phoenicians as Barat was the god/king. These are
possibly names for the Babylonian deities Nimrod and Semiramis.
pi-r-ll
2004-09-08 04:41:27 UTC
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Post by Quintal
The following is taken from 'The Biggest Secret' by David Icke (1999).
Barat and Barati
etc etc

euh, ne sommes nous pas sur site de hiérarchie *fr, donc oùon doit
parler, écrire en français ?

Pierre
--
"Ce n'est pas parce que les chevaux sont tous de grands ongulés qu'il
faut les prendre pour des cons"
P. Desproges
Eòle / Éole
2004-09-08 06:01:31 UTC
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Poruku otvorio sam a video sam da Quintal, kojog adresa je
Post by Quintal
...The 'royal' élite clan of the Aryans were (are) called the Barats
and this is why you find the term Barat or Brihat in the ancient
Indian culture as you do with Britain and British (Barat-ain and
Barat-ish).
Sauf qu'il semble que ça vienne d'un vieux-celtiques en q (racine *qrith).
--
"J'ai parfaitement conscience de mes dons d'intelligence et de décision,
qu'on ne retrouvera sans doute pas chez un autre. Personne n'a encore
réalisé ce que j'ai réalisé. J'ai conduit le peuple allemand sur un sommet"
(Adolf Hitler, 1940)
Quintal
2004-09-08 07:12:06 UTC
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 08:01:31 +0200, Eòle / Éole
Post by Eòle / Éole
"J'ai parfaitement conscience de mes dons d'intelligence et de décision,
qu'on ne retrouvera sans doute pas chez un autre. Personne n'a encore
réalisé ce que j'ai réalisé. J'ai conduit le peuple allemand sur un sommet"
(Adolf Hitler, 1940)
(de mémoire) "Ne vous faites de souci pour Hitler, je l'ai connecté à
EUX" Dietrich Eckart.
("EUX" se réfère aux anciens dieux, les souterrains là, ceux qui ne
peuvent plus s'incarner mais font tout pour, qu'on appelle aussi les
lucifer.)
Eòle / Éole
2004-09-13 18:27:47 UTC
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Post by Quintal
(de mémoire) "Ne vous faites de souci pour Hitler, je l'ai connecté à
EUX" Dietrich Eckart.
Qui c'est ce Dietrich Eckart ?
--
Eole
Qui s'y frotte s'y pique
Quintal
2004-09-14 19:38:24 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:27:47 +0200, Eòle / Éole
Post by Eòle / Éole
Post by Quintal
(de mémoire) "Ne vous faites de souci pour Hitler, je l'ai connecté à
EUX" Dietrich Eckart.
Qui c'est ce Dietrich Eckart ?
j'avais oublié de donner le lien
http://www.geocities.com/nephilimnot/hitler.html
Quintal
2004-09-08 07:12:37 UTC
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 08:01:31 +0200, Eòle / Éole
Post by Eòle / Éole
--
"J'ai parfaitement conscience de mes dons d'intelligence et de décision,
qu'on ne retrouvera sans doute pas chez un autre. Personne n'a encore
réalisé ce que j'ai réalisé. J'ai conduit le peuple allemand sur un sommet"
(Adolf Hitler, 1940)
Dietrich Eckart

During the same time frame that Hitler developed his obsession with
the Spear of Destiny he also became acquainted with, and taken under
the wings of Dietrich Eckart, his spiritual mentor and father figure.
And also became initiated in the Thule Society, a Satanic organization
cloaked in the guise of Nationalism. Hitler was never actually a
member of this society, and there is contradictory evidence as to
whether he ever attended any meetings, but their influence and support
of him is undeniable.

Eckhart died in 1923 of Heart Attack induced by a Morphine addiction,
On his deathbed Eckart Said:

'Follow Hitler ! He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune
!'
'I have initiated him into the 'Secret Doctrine', opened his centers
in vision and given him the means to communicate with the Powers.'
'Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced history more than any
other German.'


The Powers that Eckart communicated with, and initiated Hitler into
represent a pact and Guidance from the forces of Fallen Angels ...
Satanic powers. Hitler’s aide Hermann Rauschning in his book
...Hitler Speaks describes a trance that Hitler entered when he spoke
during rallies. He describes Hitler as a medium for spirits and said
that he was possessed by them.

“ One cannot help thinking of him as medium. For most of the time,
mediums are ordinary, insignificant people. Suddenly, they are endowed
with what seems to be supernatural powers, which sets them apart from
the rest of humanity. The medium is possessed. Once the crisis is
passed, they fall back again into mediocrity. It was in this way,
beyond any doubt, that Hitler was possessed by forces outside of
himself - almost demonical forces of which the individual man Hitler
was only a temporary vehicle. The mixture of the banal and the
supernatural created that insupportable duality of which power was
conscious in his presence … It was like looking at a bizarre face
whose expression seemed to reflect an unbalanced state of mind coupled
with a disquieting impression of hidden powers. "

Before his his study of the occult, use of hallucinogenic and
indoctrination and introduction to Satan through Dietrich Eckart
Hitler , was a quite ordinary but frustrated little man.
Eòle / Éole
2004-09-13 18:29:53 UTC
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Post by Quintal
Dietrich Eckart
During the same time frame [etc]
Ok, mais il serait souhaitable qu'à part de courtes citations vous ne
postiez pas en estranger ; les autres je sais pas, moi je me lasse au bout
de sept lignes.
Et je zappe <--- ça c'est du français:)
--
Eole
Qui s'y frotte s'y pique
Quintal
2004-09-14 19:48:43 UTC
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:29:53 +0200, Eòle / Éole
Post by Eòle / Éole
Post by Quintal
Dietrich Eckart
During the same time frame [etc]
Ok, mais il serait souhaitable qu'à part de courtes citations vous ne
postiez pas en estranger ; les autres je sais pas, moi je me lasse au bout
de sept lignes.
Et je zappe <--- ça c'est du français:)
ah...
je croyais que vous étiez amateur de savoir mdr
c'est quand meme pas l'anglais qui vous rebute? si? arf
Eòle / Éole
2004-09-14 20:57:42 UTC
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Post by Quintal
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:29:53 +0200, Eòle / Éole
Post by Eòle / Éole
Post by Quintal
Dietrich Eckart
During the same time frame [etc]
Ok, mais il serait souhaitable qu'à part de courtes citations vous ne
postiez pas en estranger ; les autres je sais pas, moi je me lasse au bout
de sept lignes.
Et je zappe <--- ça c'est du français:)
ah...
je croyais que vous étiez amateur de savoir mdr
Ah, c'était du savoir ? lol
Post by Quintal
c'est quand meme pas l'anglais qui vous rebute? si? arf
Si. Vous l'auriez pas en serbo-croate, par hasard ?;)
--
Franade et les abrutis : 66 occurrences
http://minilien.com/?YzAEfabC7J
cheval assis
2004-09-16 04:24:43 UTC
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Eòle / Éole wrote:

...
Post by Eòle / Éole
Si. Vous l'auriez pas en serbo-croate, par hasard ?;)
srbsko-hrvatski ?
Ako hoces mogu da ti ga prevedem :)

(if you want I can translate it for you ,
sim quiser posso traduzir lo para voce,
si tu veux je peux te le traduire) <- selectionner langue.

je blague, j'ai autre chose à faire :)

Le Mérovingien 2.0
2004-09-09 00:09:09 UTC
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speek english fucking french

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Le Mérovingien mis à jour.
Magister Quintilius
2004-09-10 12:18:20 UTC
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Eòle / Éole a écrit * avec une signature lamentable, cela a l'air de
bien l'amuser, à moins qu'il ne la revendique...* :

[...]

Vous comptez à continuer à publier longtemps avec votre signature
répugnante ? C'est de la provocation ? Si c'est le cas, elle est
particulièrement idiote et mal venue, d'autant plus que c'est un forum
d'histoire antique, ici.
On l'a vu une fois, deux fois trois fois, bon c'est bon on a compris.
Je ne sais pas pour quoi vous vous voulez passer, mais je sais en
revanche par quoi, vous vous allez finir par passer.
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